Curse

agentnull · May 04, 2006, 12:49 AM // 00:49

I'm going to post this all in bold so everybody sees it, since a bunch of people keep getting it wrong.

I never said it should be customized. I said it should not be tradable. These are completely different. I can sell my customized armor, weapons, etc... it's just the people who buy them can't equip them. The pre-order weapons can't be traded to a person who doesn't have the pre-order. Just try it if you don't believe me..

Red · May 04, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by agentnull

Making it tradable is the equivalent of saying you can choose between a new minipet or a ridiculous amount of in-game gold.

I'm not sure there's any argument against that. Assuming the market demand is high enough, that's essentially true.

Ardrid, Agent... I think that root difference is that you see this as Wrong. Though it is as you say, I'm not sure I can agree this that is ridiculously unfair overall (fairness to those who HAD preordered, then gave up and ordered a regular edition... that's another matter entirely). Besides, the difference between regular and CE is about $20, right? It's not like you can't take that same $20 elsewhere and get 300K for it (disclaimer: purchasing gold through eBay violates the EULA and will make ANet hunt you down. And shoot you in the foot).

Mod Edit: Link's to EBay gold sales are not allowed on these forums.

clarianaeneas · May 04, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

OMG....now we're talking!

Suddenly the CE has a whole new appeal to it

and I was considering cancelling mine. I just hope I get it before the 12th, cuz after that I'm leaving the US for the summer.

TY Anet, and I hope it flies!

tuperwho · May 04, 2006, 12:58 AM // 00:58

If only those of us who already have the normal version could pay the $20 difference and upgrade to CE without having to buy a whole new copy.

Ardrid · May 04, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

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Originally Posted by Redly

I'm not sure there's any argument against that. Assuming the market demand is high enough, that's essentially true.

Ardrid, Agent... I think that root difference is that you see this as Wrong. Though it is as you say, I'm not sure I can agree this that is ridiculously unfair overall (fairness to those who HAD preordered, then gave up and ordered a regular edition... that's another matter entirely). Besides, the difference between regular and CE is about $20, right? It's not like you can't take that same $20 elsewhere and get 300K for it (disclaimer: purchasing gold through eBay violates the EULA and will make ANet hunt you down. And shoot you in the foot).

I don't see the minipet as wrong. I think it's a great idea and I'm miffed that I'm one of those ppl who gave up my CE due to the 10-day fiasco. That aside, I don't think that cool item should be used to allow CE owners to profit at the expense of everyone else. If this new minipet were capable of being had by everyone and it's just that CE owners get it immediately rather than having to wait for their bday, then no big deal. It's the fact that it's CE exclusive that's the problem because it's rarity is going to automatically send prices threw the roof and the only ppl who benefit from this massive influx of money are the CE owners.

roku-dragonslayer · May 04, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

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lol i didnt even have to wait, got my CE on day of release so BONUS FOR ME

a big no to customized though, i want all my characters to take it for walkies

wait...i guess i don't understand it
if you already have CE for factions you will get the minipet too?

also, that's too bad that you can't add a CE key to an acct that has regular. I was actually thinking about buying a CE just to get the dance and the pet. My account right now has prophecies and factions standard edition and preorder for both. what would heppen if i added factions CE?

btw does the dance work for other professions? also what if you have CE for both(i don't i'm just wondering), what is dance like?

led-zep · May 04, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

yes you will

agentnull · May 04, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Redly

Though it is as you say, I'm not sure I can agree this that is ridiculously unfair overall (fairness to those who HAD preordered, then gave up and ordered a regular edition... that's another matter entirely). Besides, the difference between regular and CE is about $20, right? It's not like you can't take that same $20 elsewhere and get 300K for it (disclaimer: purchasing gold through eBay violates the EULA and will make ANet hunt you down. And shoot you in the foot).

In reference to what I bolded, read my original post on the first page.

Also, about the eBay money, I was going to bring this up earlier when someone said $30 is worth more than 100k + xxx ectos, but didn't because I didn't want people think I've bought eBay money, which I never have. I have, however, seen the prices of it. The last time I saw them, it was $10 for 100k gold. So, a person could spend $30 on eBay and only get 300k. The person who bought the CE gets all the extra physical goodies, the new dance emote, plus something that's worth 600k or more.

led-zep · May 04, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by Ardrid

I don't see the minipet as wrong. I think it's a great idea and I'm miffed that I'm one of those ppl who gave up my CE due to the 10-day fiasco. That aside, I don't think that cool item should be used to allow CE owners to profit at the expense of everyone else. If this new minipet were capable of being had by everyone and it's just that CE owners get it immediately rather than having to wait for their bday, then no big deal. It's the fact that it's CE exclusive that's the problem because it's rarity is going to automatically send prices threw the roof and the only ppl who benefit from this massive influx of money are the CE owners.

benefits of the CE, why shouldnt ce owners have something extra since they paid more for it, seems like the only people annoyed are those who would try to cash in on it. i know im keeping mine no matter how much anyone offers cos lets face it, its gonna rock. oh and its only pretend in game money anyway, its not gonna effect your real life is it. jeez

Siren · May 04, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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My point is completely lost, apparently. You can't compare the Halloween or Wintersday items to these new pets, because everybody who had the game at that time had the opportunity to get them.

Here it goes, one more time. The problem I have is not that people who waited for the CE are getting rewarded for their patience. It is that they are getting rewarded with something they can sell in game.

I could just post a really mean picture and tell you to untwist your panties, but I'll explain why you're making a mountain out of a mole-hill.

You can very easily compare these Mini's to the Halloween/Wintersday items, because back then, remember how flooded LA became? I know quite a few people whose connections couldn't hold up during it and their net crashed. I'm sure we all know a few people who couldn't even connect to LA due to tech issues like that. Hell, I'm running on a powerhouse of a computer with a silky smooth high-speed line and I was having trouble in LA.

Compare that lack of access to what's happened with the CEs, and why exactly ANet has given CErs the CE-exclusive Minipet. It's due to a lack of access. And an even greater, more severe lack of access in the case of the CE.

In the case of the Halloween/Wintersday events, at least those people could still get in-game.

In the case of the CE Minipets scenario, CErs can't even access anything related to Factions. They pre-ordered Factions so they could play Factions.

You may counter the above points by asking why didn't ANet retroactively re-imburse those players whose computers crapped out, and now suddenly why are they providing an extra perk to the inaccessibles. The answer is fairly simple:

In no way is the CE catastrophe due to technical issues on the players' parts, or load on the servers. The CE catastrophe is entirely due to sloppy and mismanaged production schedules and miscommunications.

And while I'll be one of the first to state how many people on these boards can't read worth a damn, there was an incredible number of people who completely misunderstood the Grace Period, which shouldn't be the case.

Every single time there was an attempted clarification, some people just became more and more confused, because sometimes? We were getting conflicting feedback. One user had posted the email he received from Customer Support, and it was stating something completely contradictory to what Gaile has said.

There have been meandering press releases almost every few hours, it seems, each less succinct than the previous ones, and in fact raising more questions than answering others.

The ball here was dropped entirely on the production side, not the consumer side. The consumers were completely innocent in this case.

Had the Pumpkin Crowns and Santa Hats been transferrable, do you think people would have been as pissed off about missing the events? Absolutely not. The Halloween Brews, Candy Cane weapons, and Candy Canes themselves are still popular for one reason only: they're transferrable. And people are selling them...the Candy Cane weps/items at least. What good would they have done had they been locked on certain characters or accounts? Absolutely nothing.

Regarding the selling in-game thing...check out what the Mini Charr Shaman is selling for. That's one of the birthday items. Mini Rurik is selling for a lot, too. He's one of the birthday items. You want to take issue with just the CE Mini? Based solely on the ability to sell it in-game? You need to be targeting much, much more than just the CE Mini.

And quite frankly, it's nice to finally see some peace offering from the Devs for the CErs.

roku-dragonslayer · May 04, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by tuperwho

If only those of us who already have the normal version could pay the $20 difference and upgrade to CE without having to buy a whole new copy.

I think that this is a great idea. I would be willing to pay even $30 for it prolly. I really want that minipet.

Anet is going to sell character slots so why not do this? MAybe we'd even be able to get the calendar, mousepad, etc. with it.

agentnull · May 04, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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If only those of us who already have the normal version could pay the $20 difference and upgrade to CE without having to buy a whole new copy.

Yeah, I brought that up in one of my original posts.

This is not to flame you, but does nobody read threads from the beginning?

Diablo™ · May 04, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

I've been wondering about this... now that the CE will give us a mini dragon, on top of the 1 year mini pet present, does that mean our 1 year old CE characters will have TWO mini pets?!?

agentnull · May 04, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

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